This time on PostCut, we go into the Art Form of Voice Acting. We Interview Voice actress Sheila M. Lin, and we discuss her journey through her Career.
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This time on PostCut, we go into the Art Form of Voice Acting. We Interview Voice actress Sheila M. Lin, and we discuss her journey through her Career.
The show where we analyze films from the latest to the greatest, the worst and the lamest!
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Sheila:Oh boy. Oh boy.<laugh>
Dave V:Dave. He's back.
Dave B:Yeah.
Dave V:Get the Ray Shields up.
Dave B:She can do the mouse, but she can do the impression of the mouse better than I can.
Sarah:And welcome to post cut feature. Tableau. I am your host actress of the stage in screen. Sarah Peterson with me today, I have our, uh, writer and editor David M. Brown.
Dave B:Hello,
Sarah:Aand we have our VFX artist, David Veerkamp.
Dave V:Hello.
Sarah:And today is a very, very special, um, interview.
Dave B:Day,
Sarah:Day,
Dave B:Episode,
Sarah:Episode, whatever you wanna say. Uh, we have my friend Sheila Lin. Is that how you are known on the stage and screen?
Sheila:Oh, Sheila M. Lin When I write it, but Sheila Lin is Fine.
Sarah:Right? So we have voice actor and improviser, Sheila M. Lin with us today.
Sheila:Hello I said hello twice I waved, I waved t o my computer.< laugh>
Dave V:Wait. You waved to the, the, the non video call that were having
Sarah:I love it.
Dave B:Hi,
Dave V:Sheila. We can't see you start.
Dave B:We assure you. We just waved back.
Sarah:So
Dave B:Why is the introdu`ction always do this to us?
Speaker 4:I it's it's Monday night at 7:00 PM and we are exhausted and it's quarantine.
Dave V:Remember when we did this on Sunday mornings.
Sarah:Oh God.<laugh>.
Dave B:Yeah. How did we ever do that?
Sarah:So To get this show on the road, um, I invited Sheila on the show today because if you guys have been following our live show, we've been doing a lot of discussions on voice acting. We've been doing a lot of short film discussions and things like that. And I really wanted to bring someone who has an exorbitant amount of industry knowledge into our experience yes. Into our midst. Because as as much knowledge as I have on voice acting, we'll fill a thimble. So Sheila is here today to give us some enlightenment
Dave B:<laugh> please don't say that
Sheila:Ag` ain. That was, that was pretty sexy. Can, can you give me another read of that was exorbitant and that was great.
Sarah:I, I, yeah, no, I can't do that.<laugh> I don't even know what I said.
Dave V:She only gets paid
Sheila:Like` I got a tingle in the back of my throat. It's like exorbitant. She's making me sound way better than I think I am.<laugh>
Dave V:That reminds me Sarah. Stick to the copy introduction. We're not paying you for exorbitant exorbitant stuff. Just kidding.
Sarah:I apologize.<laugh> my$5 word is gone.
Dave V:$ 2,
Sarah:$2,
Dave B:$2.<laugh> for enlightenment. Ugh.<laugh>
Sarah:We'll have a discussion about the$2 joke. at the end of the show. Yeah. Um,
Dave B:Yeah, you, you will get asked a, a certain question<laugh> by, by the end of the show,
Sheila:Feel like, I've heard that, that joke before must be from an eighties movie. Am I rght?
Dave B:Oh, she's close, man. You are so close.
Dave V:We need to pursue this now.
Dave B:Now. Yeah.
Sarah:Have You seen the movie Better off Dead? With John Cusack and uh, I always forget his name.
Sheila:``Wait, Little boy. Is it a boy? That's a newspaper boy. And he, yes. Yes. I do know that
Dave B:<laugh> it's episode five of,
Dave V:I don't want a dime$2.
Dave B:It's it's it's episode five of post cut. Yeah.
Sarah:You gotta hear our review,
Dave B:Sarah Sarah's debut. And, and thank you. It was the movie I picked and I, I really thought everyone was gonna like it. Dave was, Dave has, has slowly warmed to it.<laugh>.
Dave V:But more like tortured Myself into it because everyone around me keeps rewatching it over and over.
Dave B:``as soon as he, and soon as soon as soon as Dave got a copy, Sarah had it on the background, like at least once a week. Thank you.<laugh> I never thought look, when I first saw that movie, I, I loved it, but Sarah's Sarah's reaction has been the best.
Sarah:I love it.
Dave V:Absolutely priceless,
Sarah:On a getting back away from tangent note. All right, Sheila. we've got some very basic questions for you.
Sheila:Yeah.
Sarah:They're kind of boring. I'm sorry, but we'll get better with them. So, um, let's start out with, uh, why don't you give us a little taste of what you do as a voice actor, as an improviser, as a stage actor, give us a little background on what you do.
Sheila:Sure. So for improvising, I work at a couple different theaters though. An improviser doesn't necessarily need to work at a theater to be an improviser. All you need is a stage, maybe one person looking at you and maybe a teammate. And that's all there is to, it is just going up and getting to be someone else for a little while and living in the moment. And that has helped immensely with my voice acting. Cuz a lot of times you get auditions from an agent or from some kind of source and there's a limited amount of time there's need for quick turnaround. So I took improv to help with my voice acting and now they kind of are in this lovely marriage together, so every day I'm trying to combine the both of them. And if I can find a way to do both at the same time, I relish every opportunity to do so.
Dave V:So quick question. Uh, did you start with, uh, voice acting and then kind of introduce yourself to improv and that kind of helped flesh out your acting career? Or did you kind of just dive all in at once?
Sheila:Well, Sarah was on a speech team that I was also on back at community college and that's where it all started was I got recruited by Joel Schmara. I joined the team, won a couple awards, had a great time. And I started to think about how much I've loved cartoons, telling stories, how much I got a kick out of public speaking and just talking. And it started with voice acting first, since I went to take a couple classes, I interned at a talent agency and then as I was learning and reading and uh, studying, I learned two things. Improv helps with auditions and theater training helps with diction and being able to take direction. So I went with improv first and theater came a couple years later.
Dave V:Ah, Okay.
Sarah:Yeah. Sheila actually coached me on my pros when we were in, uh, forensics. Oh really? Which I thought was the cool cuz she like really? And it was funny cuz it was a piece that I think I had written or something like that. I, I had cobbled it together and she's like, you gotta do this. And it like the minute she coached me on it, I got first p`lace. It was awesome.
Dave V:I think it's very interesting that she mention started with, uh,
Sheila:It Was a dark piece, right? It was a darker Prose.
Sarah:Yeah. It was uh, news from the dead.
Dave B:Sounds interesting.
:It's about Emily Green. H mm. I don't know why that just like sticks in my head.
Dave V:Who's Emily Green.
Sarah:It's a girl who, uh, she it's a true story. She, um, it's a book that was just at the time was just released and it was, um, her story of how she was hung for in infanticide, which is old school term for abortion. And she actually came back from the dead on the autopsy table.
Dave V:What the heck?
Sarah:It's a really good book.
Dave V:What the heck?
Sarah:And I had cobbled it together and like it's, it's all Sheila's fault that I kept winning. It was great.<laugh> She, she told me to do this like blank stare. I really remember it. Like she told me to do this blank stare and it like freaked. One of the judges out. She pulled me to the side and she goes, don't do that again.<laugh> it's like, it's creepy.
Dave V:I think that was the point<laugh>.
Dave B:Yeah.
Sheila:Good. That means you, you made an impact on them.
Dave V:Artistic expression.
Sarah:Yeah. So.
Dave V:I really like that, but like I said, I, I, I think it's very interesting that you started your career with, or at least speech got you into that. Cause that's I find that interesting cuz when I was starting, at least when I was started going to college, I wanted to go into for acting and I started with a speech class and that kind of got me down the road before I decided to turn to the dark side. But yeah,<laugh> I, I find speeches like one of the biggest avenues.
Sarah:Uh, did you have any questions before we move on?
Dave B:No, she kind of already answered the question I had so.
Dave V:Psychic.
Sarah:I love it.
Dave V:Yeah. Nice.
Sarah:All right. Um, so that answers how you got into voice acting. I like it. What is your favorite experience from, uh, all of the voice acting that you've done so far?
Sheila:My favorite is the rare moments I get to be in the studio with other people at the same time, kinda like how the Simpsons tend to record together. It's very rare. It's so rare. Even with a couple places like Bob's burgers and stuff, most never really get to be in the same room. So those are the most treasured experiences is when I can either be at least at a booth where I'm communicating with someone directly or I'm next to someone and bouncing off of them. So rare. But those are always my favorite moments.
Dave B:Yeah. That seems a little odd to me that you wouldn't at least have like the, the other actor who you're supposedly inter that the characters are interacting with in the room to do the lines. I, I think that pardon me? It's it doesn't happen. It's so rare. A lot of it is, uh, maybe one person might get to hear some of the feedback and bounce off of it. If you're lucky, otherwise it's just up to the director to make sure that the interaction seems natural. Hmm.
Sarah:That's interesting.
Dave B:Yeah, that is.
Sarah:Cause it's Not how Sean had me do. He had me listen to, uh, the other actor's voices.
Dave B:Yeah.
Sarah:So I could play off of it. So that's a very interesting Way of doing. it.
Dave B:Yeah. I mean, I can understand like if you're doing ADR or in, in audition where you just have somebody kind of just monotone read the lines just to give them the, just to give a cue.
Dave V:Yeah. Cause it's, Preacted, you know, usually the ADR, the same actors coming in after they've performed the scene.
Dave B:Right.
Dave V:So normally you already have the inflections and you have video of it so you can look at it and mm-hmm,<affirmative> kind of go based off that.
Dave B:So how do you handle that?
Sheila:Well, the best thing that I've learned to do is either to look at the person, usually the guy recording so that I can feel a human interaction. If it's for something like a commercial or, um, an e-learning for animation and, and video games, I already am fairly in tuned with the character. So I already have an idea of how they would respond and what their relationship is to the other character.
Dave B:Okay.
Sheila:And when you take, when you're just doing as many takes, as they want you to, one of them's got hit.
Dave B:Yeah.
Sheila:Eventually<laugh>,
Dave V:That's True. That's true.
Dave B:I mean is like, what is the difference between say a stage director and a voiceover director? I mean like style wise, I mean, does one give more direction? Does one give less,
Sheila:You know, it just depends on who you're working for for it a lot, like you said, with voice acting, some people are lucky enough to get to be in the same room. Some never get to even hear from the other person. Every person operates it so differently. So every time it's really, that's why you have favorite people you like to work with. As an example, McKayla Laws is one of my favorite people to work for because she encourages me. Logan Miller is another person who, if they ask me to do a project, I will jump on because I like how they interact with me as an actor.
Dave B:Okay.
Dave V:Yeah. That, I mean, that is very common cause mean the field is all about, you know, personality types working together to make a very large overall project, you know? So I find that very fascinating. Uh, I have a question. Um, so what would you say is the most critical performance you ever had a performance that may have pushed you to pushing yourself and changing your career to improve yourself? Anything that might have made a major change? I
Sheila:Only heard a little bit of that. Your voice got very for me. Could someone just repeat the question?
Dave V:So, uh, my question was is, uh, what was the most critical performance you've ever had a performance that maybe you didn't agree with that might have pushed you to maybe changing your style or pushing yourself into, um, making major changes towards your career?
Sheila:I'm so sorry. My fan is cutting you off. So I just know it was about what was the most critical thing for my career. Is that correct?
Dave V:Uh, yeah. What was the most critical, uh, performance you've had, uh, that may have changed your career performance that might have changed your, uh, like style or may have like said, okay, if I'm really gonna take this seriously, I need to make some changes. Anything that may have pushed You.
Sheila:Ye`s. So the first time I really, really took something serious and I put probably more effort than someone should when you're like, oh, you only are supposed to get this in three takes. I, I might have gone a little overboard. And that was for a Singapore student animated film called Zero One and their computer altered my voice. So I sounded more robotic.
Dave V:Okay.
Sheila:But I put a lot of effort into that and that one, even though it was more simple animation, I just loved it and I wanted it to reflect how much I wanna be here and how much fun, something that had a battle in it and implied dark backstory.
Sarah:Hmm.
Dave V:I like that. So wait, what was the title of that one called again?
Sheila:Zero one.
Dave V:Okay.
Speaker 3:I wanna check that out.
Dave B:Yeah.
Sheila:Yeah. The two minute something video. And it's just me talking about this apocalyptic world and how people are they're after this particular person who is Zero One. And it it's, it's, it's almost like a draft of what could be a pilot and it was just a student film, but apparently it won an award. I don't know all the information cause it's kind of hard to find stuff that's out of the country,
Dave V:But I always find, uh, the short, uh, short student films and then short shorts mm-hmm<affirmative>, which are like, you only have like two to five minutes to make are always the most creatively abstract, because you have to put a lot of information into a short period of time.
Dave B:Not only that, but you're you're coming up. You're like those 48 hour film festival things.
Dave V:Oh yeah. Two days, days. Good luck
Dave B:To write, produce, get costumes, for props, everything like that. Yeah.
Dave V:Whole, whole, whole dining arts.
Dave B:And all they do is give you like a sentence for your film and you gotta to build it off of that.
Sarah:Those are cool.
Dave B:Yeah.
Sarah:So
Sheila:I've never participated in that, but those are fun. Those are cool. I've seen,
Dave B:I haven't participated in one and I, I wouldn't necessarily participate as production crew.
Dave V:I've done two.
Dave B:I would as a 48 hour One.
Dave V:Yeah. I signed up for two. Yeah.
Sheila:That's kind Of like, you probably have to draw straws and the shortest one is the sucker.
Dave V:Yeah. Well actually it's, especially in the student environment, it was basically a lot of the people who, who signed up for them were wanted to be there.
Dave B:Yeah.
Dave V:So usually they had the right head space.
Sarah:Yeah.
Dave V:So they all show up and they're like, all right. It it's, whoever starts talking and starts laying out what they wanna do usually takes the director position right away.
Dave B:Right.
Dave V:Because<affirmative> this, guy's got a vision. We're gonna go with that.
Dave B:Well, whenever, like when we were in school, whenever we had a project, they'd say, what do you wanna do? And I would just immediately raise my hand and go, I want, I wanna be the editor. I, I could care less about being on, on stage or on set. But if you need me, I'll be there if I can. But for the most part, I, I want nothing to do with production.
Dave V:I was always Asked to be actor and I never wanted to be the actor<laugh> but it's because I had enough improv training that people just knew. Hey, we have like five minutes. Dave knows how to act a little bit. We'll throw him in there. Well, uh, So I got used to being taken as the actor, but I, I, I, I try my best to put myself into VFX supervising positions and assistant directors, as much as I wanted to be.
Dave B:Which one do you enjoy? More voice acting or theater?
Sheila:Voice Acting, voice acting had to take a second. I had to think about that, but with everything that has happened with COVID and quarantine, from my perspective, voice actors have adapted the best. And because we're already kind of built for isolation, we do a lot of things from home mm-hmm<affirmative> and we already take care of our bodies and take care of our voice. It's very serious. If you get a sore throat, you might lose out on work. It actually happened where an improviser went to rehearsal, sick was coughing into the air and I got sick and I missed out on a Nickelodean audition.
Dave B:Wow.
Sheila:Cause I had a sore throat and stuff like that can happen. So our health and when I was up interning at my, at the talent agency, I came into, uh, in one day and I'm young and I was just feeling a little sick, a little under the weather. They kicked me out.
Dave B:Yeah.
Sheila:They're like, we don't want you near our talent. Go home.
Sarah:Wow. So
Dave V:I see why.
Sheila:Most loving way possible, but they were right. If you're sick, don't Go<laugh>.
Dave V:Yeah. Cuz you could ruin like, like a whole schedule just by coughing in one room.
Sarah:So.
Dave V:That's crazy.
Sarah:That, that brings a really good question to my mind is with this whole quarantining and you guys having to self isolate and stuff like that. Have you been able to focus more on the voice acting and getting more, uh, titles under your belt or anything like that?
Dave V:Commercial work Now because of the COVID thing what's going on now with that?
Sheila:I've been getting more work during March. I, I refused to do any work at all. Cause I wanted to see how things were going to play out, but everything kind of came naturally. I'm I'm with the advertising company now and they've been sending me a lot of auditions more than I ever thought I would get. And that's been nice. And while I haven't been in doing as much auditioning it's because I laid the groundwork earlier on by auditioning and making relationships everywhere. So now I have a handful of people that tend to come to me repeatedly. So that's how I've been getting most of my work is through repeat jobs with people that seem to like working with me and I definitely love working with them.
Sarah:So would you say that having a career as a voice actor would be very beneficial to continue like your connections and staying connected with people is that basically how people tend to thrive in voice acting.
Sheila:Th`is is gonna suck, but there is no one way of doing voice acting anymore. I used to believe that you never show your picture because people will judge your voice based on the picture and that can impact and impede any work you get. But now I see it. Hasn't had that much of an impact on certain people. I used to believe that you had to get your demo on your website in less than three clicks, but with YouTube and TikTok, why even bother. So it's, it's been changing ever since voices.com bot voice bank. There's also all this pay to play problem going on too. So all of it just up in the air for me, what's worked is building relationships with animators that does in particular work for me. But it may not have worked for other people trying that.
Dave B:Well, that goes to like general freelance work.
Sarah:Yeah.
Dave B:It's it's every, every freelance site we've come across is pay to play.
Dave V:Yeah.
Dave B:`And it's it. It's annoying. It's you know,
Dave V:And it's frustrating too.
Dave B:`I don't have a job. You expect me to pay to get a job, but I can't pay cuz I don't have a job and I need a job in order to pay. You knows it's Ridiculous.
Sheila:P`atinum membership. Like, Hey, if you really want the good stuff, pay a little more right. Than everyone else. And then maybe we'll make sure you get the job. Maybe kinda quotation marks.
Dave B:Right? Nothing, nothing works. I've
Dave V:It's not even, there's no client and worker. There's just client and the client you're milking, you know? Yeah. Essentially it's, it's kind of stupid, but that's how it is.
Sheila:Cau` se there are people that are so incredibly talented that I know who are more talented than I am. I guarantee they should be famous, but they're not luck. Hasn't worked out them. This one person I know doesn't even have a, have an agent and he's so incredibly talented. Hey, can I ask you guys question? Am I allowed to do that? Sure, sure. I would like to know, uh, since you guys have been so interested in voice acting and looking at movies and stuff, what is one of your favorite movies with voice acting that you like?
Dave V:Ooh, this is very good questions
Sheila:Or video games. Just anything with a voice voiceover. What's something that like sticks with you.
Sarah:Star wars, James Earl Jones.<laugh> anything with James Earl Jones.
Dave V:Y``ou're so classic Sarah,
Sarah:What? He's got a good voice. The fact that he wasn't even on the set and he was able to portray a lot of those emotions for, for Vader was great. Think about it.
Speaker 3:It's true. It's very true. What do You think, Dave?
Sheila:Yeah, I'm thinking. Mm.
Dave B:Um,<laugh> one of the, one of the, no, seriously. One of the, one of the funniest voice actors is on robot chicken. Um,<laugh>, I'm trying to think of his name and I gotta remember the, the sketch that he does cuz he says his name in it. Uh oh I hate this. Um, oh he was in, he was in the movie road trip. Never saw he was in Garfield. That was a, that was a gag that they did on the show too. Uh, Brecken Meyer, Breckin Meyerhas for the charact Bobba fat and robot chicken. Just the perfect vo voice for it because he makes,'em such a douche`bag.<laugh> and it's hilarious. It's great. But.
Dave V:``man, now I gotta bleep you out.
Dave B:`Yeah. Well I can cut it out, but.
Sarah:Why is that a bad word?
Dave B:`Yeah. Apparently, no, just leave it in. It's not that bad. I'm not, I'm not saying Breckin Meyer is one I'm saying he makes Boba Fett seem like one.
Dave V:Right? Right. Of course
Sarah:<laugh> Anyway, I, I have to rephrase my favorite one. My favorite one is the British guy at the beginning of all the British movies where he is like the video that you are just now watching. And he's like talking about like the piracy thing. Oh, I don't know his name, but I love him. Cause it's like at the beginning of all the Dr Who movies and yo``u're just like, ah, privacy. So British.
Dave V:Privacy's a crime
Sarah:<laugh> I love him.
Dave V:Don't steal this DVD.<laugh>
Dave B:Luke, I'm your dad.
Sarah:All right, Dave, what's yours.
Dave V:Mine. All right. Well, I dunno, I'm a huge gamer, uh, and into VFX. So I love CGI stuff. So, uh, I would say the best voice acting or the voice acting that still stands out to me is all the voice acting in motion capture they did for the, uh, qu dream games. So that's uh, Heavy Rain, uh, Beyond Two Soul. Uh, Detroit, those games are like they're is photorealistic as a movie and they have the voice acting to sound like they were live action pictures. Hmm. And, and it's, I, I still feel like, I mean, I hate to say it, but I feel like we're going towards the future where the video games and movies will cross over and become these interactive experiences like living reliving novels, essentially. Mm-hmm,<affirmative> kinda like the star Trek. Holodecks I feel like this is gonna, that's gonna be where it's going. And Quantic dream has been making video games that are basically ex movies that you get to change the outcome to. And I think that is just Amazing.
Dave B:See, now that you have me thinking about it, the, uh, anthology series loved death and robots. Oh yeah. That had really phenomenal voice acting for any of the animated, uh, pieces that were done. Absolutely. Oh my gosh.
Sheila:The one with, uh, the one that takes place in, in, uh, with the, the transforming like steam punk with, uh, was it a with thes?
Dave V:Yeah, yeah, Yeah.
Sheila:`That one. Oh, that one was gorgeous.
Dave B:Absolutely. Uh, I like the one where they're in the cave.
Dave V:With the vampire.
Dave B:Yeah. The vampire one was good. And of course this was crazy. The one where the, the guy wakes up on, on the spaceship and.
Dave V:that was creepy.
Dave B:Yeah. It was creepy, but it's voice acting cuz it's it's all animated.
Dave V:Oh absolutely. My favorite was the one with the robots cracking jokes about the apocalypse.
Sarah:With the cat.
Dave V:`That one was,
Sarah:That was so good.
Dave V:It was so priceless. I love how the, the tall one was said. The whole show was an Xbox 4,000
Sarah:<affirmative> So, so then, then we're gonna reframe the question towards you, Sheila. What's your favorite?
Sheila:Yes. So I'm sure people have their opinions on dubbed anime, dubbed subbed. You can put me in dubbed with enjoyment of sub. I like both, but there are certain dubs I'll always go back to. And one in particular is the anime movie Metropolis.
Sarah:Ooh.
Sheila:The subbing for that is so fantastic and so beautiful and so perfectly melded. And I, I, I love the Japanese I do, but I can't help, but go and listen to the English every single time. Heck the guy that voice is a Laddin is in it. It's so great.
Sarah:Oh, Steve, from full house<laugh> mm-hmm
Sheila:<affirmative> yep. Plays Atlas, which is, uh, one of the up risers in the animated film. Some people aren't fond of the film, but it's one of my favorites and I can just listen to that. Every I did actually in high school, I listen to it. I watched it every day for a month. I remember that.
Sarah:<laugh> Well, that's a little excessive.
Dave B:No, it's not.
Dave V:No, it's not. It's Better Off Dead watcher over here.
Sheila:Kinda foreshadowing. Don't you think?<laugh> I'm not obsessed with.
Dave B:When I was a kid and we got the V we got a VHS player and, and we got Star Wars. I, I, I destroyed that tape. It no longer exists because I wore it out.<laugh>
Sheila:<laugh>
Sarah:It's like me and hunchback and Notre Dame. Yeah.
Sheila:Yeah.
Sarah:Notre Dame. Yeah. No
Dave V:<laugh> U h, it's so true.
Sarah:So,
Dave V:And we could talk about great voice acting and movies all day though, because I was gonna say, yeah, we have a few that we've talked on the show. Like what was the one that was made by, we made out of blender? What, what was it? What was the show.
Dave B:Spring.
Sarah:Next gen? No
Dave V:Next gen gen. Yeah.
Dave B:Next gen.
Sarah:Have you seen that one, Sheila?
Sheila:No, I have not.
Dave B:You should check that out.
Sarah:You would like it.
Dave V:And we have a whole podcast episode dedicated to it.
Sarah:Ok` ay. We're not plugging our podcast within our podcast. That's just podcast inception
Dave V:That you thought that phrase out. Go on.<laugh> that's for Sheila to know.
Sarah:So are there, are there any semi well noted actors that you've actually worked with in the past?
Sheila:Sure. Lots of 6 degrees of separation. Uh, Kara Bucklin. I mean, McKayla laws is also a voice actress in her own. Right. And she's really big. I've been able to do stuff with Jason Marnocha who does a lot of anime dubbing, and I believe he was in, uh, Carole and Tuesday and it's on Netflix. So I believe he plays the manager of the girls. And, uh, once upon a time Edward Bosco and I cuz we all went to Columbia college together and we were in this radio club and we did a couple readings and such together. And then Deb Doetzer, who's my mentor. And she's so cool. And if you don't know her, you will because she recently booked a, a guest role on the Owl House, the animated series. And it looks like she might be a regular. And she also was in a bunch of video games and so cool to me, she like what I would aspire to be.
Sarah:Where can I find the owl house,
Sheila:Uh, just type it up on YouTube. I think there's a couple episodes on there. It's a kids show, but what's cool is one of the characters is very reminiscent of Ryoko fromTenchi Masaki. And that's where a lot of people make this connection. And apparently the Deb is gonna be playing a character related to that, uh, particular character of the show and it looks really cool and it's very fun and cute and she's amazing.
Dave V:Super awesome.
Sheila:Oh, and Pat FraleyI didn't work with him, but he trained me. I did, uh, Pat Fraley so he, gosh, what hasn't he done? He has been around for a heck of a long time. Let me just you a simple search. So I don't have to remember all of it from memory. What hasn't this guy done?
Dave B:See, that's the thing, you know, their names we need, we would know their voices<laugh> because I remember not because while you're looking that up, I remember I was, I was, uh, injured. And so I was, I had just bought a video game Knights of theOld Republic and I was playing it. And one of the characters, main characters, uh, has a speaking role. I was they're playing it. I'm like, I've heard that voice before. I've heard that voice before. And then I get done with the game and I go and I put on the history channel and he's the voice, uh, over for modern marvels. I'm like, that's him, what's his name? And, and I start to recognize him as I go.
Sarah:It's it's like when you listen to the guy who plays Zachary Banks and Hocus Focus, he's done, um, a boatload of stuff. But because he is the cat and ho focus, that's all you remember.
Dave B:Yeah.
Sheila:Yeah. Okay. Then, then this one you'll know pat, from this, he was Krang from the original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles series.
Dave V:Oh snap.
Dave B:Okay. Oh even I know that.
Dave V:That's awesome.
Dave B:Wow.
Sheila:Yeah. Cause again, his list is so long. It's hard to pick which one, but if you need that for memory, that's the guy and he's come to Chicago more than once and have trained a bunch of actors. And I'm one of them. He did a whole accent thing with Deb Doetzer and my Irish accent got much better because of him.
Dave B:And do you know the names of pinky in the brain? Cuz they just popped into my head for, you know, like animation.
Sheila:Yes. Maurice LaMarche and uh, Rob Paulsen. I have his book, but to be fair, just to lay that on the table, I'm not nearly as good with voice actor names. As I seem, I am medium at best. There are people that know so many names and I just shake my head and be like, yeah, that guy, totally
Dave B:Like the guy who does, uh, optimist prime. He's done. I know he's prolific in work. He's done many, many kind of,
Dave V:You know, who's prolific in, in voice acting work. The guy who voices Winnie the poo he's in every show.
Sheila:Jim Cummings.
Dave V:Yes. Jim Cummings he's in everything.
Sarah:I was just gonna say, cuz Sheila just did a spotlight on him. Not too long ago on her voice acting page on,
Dave V:did you really?
Sarah:I swear it was like recent.
Sheila:Oh yeah. I, I made VA collages for fun cuz at my day job, sometimes it gets a little slow and I can't be sending auditions. So once in a while I'll just collect some photos and put'em together and just share it because it's fun. It's all for.
Dave V:So,
Sheila:But yeah, that would be the most, I guess, famous people. There's probably other people too that I'm not thinking of. Cuz there's so many out there. But I guess if what I could say is someone I, I haven't worked with, but I would love to work with someday. Who's famous and well known and respected is well Jeff Bennett, the guy who was not only in Disney's Gargoyles as Brooklyn and the Megas and Owen, but also was Johnny Bravo.<laugh>
Sarah:RJ would flip his Lid.
Dave B:He loves Johnny Bravo.
Sheila:He doesn't have a social media presence. Really. He seems to be very good about keeping sort of secret. And I kinda like that cuz sometimes you don't wanna know too much about your heroes.
Dave B:Oh No. Cause.
Dave V:That is the truth.
Dave B:Yeah.
Sarah:I l earned T hat the hard way with David Krumholtz.
Dave B:I, I have that on my Facebook page. It's says don't get to know your heroes cuz they'll just let you, they'll just let you down. Just let'em be. Just let,'em be heroes.
Sheila:And I know they're not gonna be their characters. I, I know fans sometimes get mad at actors just because of the characters they voice. But that's, I'm just more, I just, that would be someone I would love to work with someday or even just to meet in person and say, yeah, I love your work.
Dave B:Okay. So, so that brings up another question. What voice actor, whether famous or not well more, more or less be famous would be the one where if you did get to work with, with them, you would have a tough time controlling that fan gushing kind of emotion. When you see'em<laugh> oh my God. It's this person, you know, that kind of, kind of, of feeling.
Sheila:Uh, okay. So it's gonna be a couple different people, but one is John Lovitz
Dave B:<laugh> John Lovitz yes. The critic. Yes. I know that show. I love that show. It was great. He's just, I love listening to the critic and just listening to his inflections and how much fun he has with that character. So I would be gushing and try not to giggle and laugh. Another would be people. I actually know. Um, Malcolm Ray and Jason Marnocha and I were all classmates at comedy and they've gone on some amazing stuff. I'm friends with Malcolm Ray. Actually I met him at Columbia college when I was there for a little bit. Mm-hmm<affirmative> yeah.
Sheila:And
Dave V:At first two classes.
Sheila:I would probably be gushing if we did a, project in the future together because it'd be like, oh my God, look how We've come.
Dave B:Okay, Dave, you have, you have, you got an assignment?
Dave V:We gotta make that animated movie now<laugh><laugh> it's gotta happen.
Sarah:Cause Didn't you work with Dave? Didn't you do a, I got do the music for that one short video of you.
Dave V:Yeah, we did the short video of the witch coming outta the book. Uh, I had him narrat for that one. Uh, cause I, it was like the only voice acting connection I had at the time.
Sarah:That is hilarious.
Dave V:Yeah. I had small world. Wait, when did you go to Columbia?
Sheila:Yeah, he and I were in the same, uh, audio production class.
Dave V:Interesting. Uh, I guess this is a fun fact. He learned about the channel Awesome Audition from me. No way. What!
Sheila:And he submitted on the last day. I mean, I remember specifically in class, I was telling him about it. I'm like, Hey, you should too. And we were both at the callbacks, so we both made it to the callbacks. We did our thing and he made it on and he's doing great stuff and I'm super happy for him. This is, we all meet up with like, you know, Kevin and all these other great voice actors in the city who are working and doing amazing things. And I love getting to hang out with him when he's available.
Dave V:This is so crazy because what a small world<laugh> because if I hadn't changed careers, I probably would've still been going down that path. That's just so crazy how close that was. And Now it's,
Sheila:And he really is the sweetest person, which is why I would be gushing because I loved working with the few projects that I have done at school with Malcolm and Jason Marnocha because they've gone to do such great things. And I had so much fun in the booth of them. Heck even people that may not have gotten where they want to be just yet. I would love to work on a project with them like Mark Child or Ross child, lot of child, lot of, lot of actors out there, but they're, they're incredible talented people that haven't gotten their time to shine. But the good thing about voice acting is age does not really matter. And I've met people at my auditions and at, uh, interns who are really old and still working.
Sarah:That's awesome.
Dave V:That's the truth.
Dave B:That's when we about voice acting, all this stuff that isn't necessarily production or on, on screen stuff. Yeah. It's you can do it for as long as you can do it.
Dave V:It's the best part of, I feel like of acting itself because if we go into the future and let's say, we, I guess let's say film comes outta style, which I don't think it will be, but no, hypothetically there'll always be a voice overwork as long as we have ears.
Dave B:Well, the point, well, the point animation is, is they're trying to animate something that looks photorealistic for a person so that you don't get the uncanny valley.
Dave V:Right. But then if sounds are match up and voice doesn't match up and just, it doesn't feel like it's coming from that, from that right. Creature or human or whatever people are gonna know.
Sarah:So I know we're getting a little, little bit longer. Uh, we wanna cut down some time. So my final, my final question, I know the guys are probably having more. Do you have any, um, future projects that you can kinda like peek into the curtain with us and tell us about.
Dave V:Allowed to talk about,
Sarah:Yeah,
Sheila:I can do one. The other one I can kind of hint at, cause it's sort of the animator wants to make an animated pilot and definitely wants me a part of it. And their animation is incredible and super beautiful and diverse and inclusive. And I can't say nothing about it until, right? Like it's it, this is common for voice actors is we have such a long list of things we can't talk about, cuz they're always in a planning stage. And even if you finish recording something, it may not even make it out. But the one thing I wanna talk about is a sequel to a video game. I was in called Project Nimbus I was Esmerelda Ingrid. Uh, and yeah, Esmaralda Ingrid of the SSS teal and she's gonna be back older for the sequel project, Nimbus Infinity and the trailer came out a couple months ago. So it's, it's a Mecha battle battle game and it's really beautiful and so well done. And they're also from Singapore bunch of bunch of people. Yeah. Singapore has got it going on.
Dave V:So I, I just pulled up the steam page. I'm like, oh Wow.
Sheila:Yeah, just look the project, Nimbus Infinity. I believe that is called. And I know I'm in the demo. I know my character comes back in the demo. Okay. I'm not a hundred percent if I'll be in the game, but I would imagine so since they were asking me to voice the demo.
Dave V:Nice. Oh my gosh, this game actually looks really good.<laugh>
Sarah:I think he's got a new game that he's gonna play
Dave V:Hey it's on sale.
Sheila:Yes. In Fact, one of the visual
Dave B:Copy if you're in the game,<laugh>
Sheila:I am for the English cast, uh, I was more of a main in thefirst game. The second game, I'm gonna be more of a minor character. Okay. Which is fine. Cause it's like, say there are no small parts have fun with everything that you get to do and be lucky and grateful that you get any opportunity to do what you love.
Sarah:Yeah.
Dave V:Well, if it's only the second game, we just know, the fact is when the third game comes around, you'll probably come back as a villain.
Sheila:Yeah. You never know I'll come backas a ghost
Dave V:So for sure. And you know what, if you ever see Malcolm Ray, before I do tell him I still owe tell him I still owe him lunch. I really do.
Sarah:Just be like, David still owes you lunch.<laugh>. and He'll be like what.
Dave V:He might have forgotten me. I don't know.
Dave B:Nah, I don't think So.
Dave V:It's been seven years<laugh>
Sarah:So, so, uh, guys, do you have any other questions?
Dave V:No, I'm good.
Dave B:One quick one. Just to go. It's gotta be the one that everybody asks. So I'll be the one to ask it. What's your dream job
Sheila:To be a part of a syndicated animated series. And even if it only lasts for a season like the Oblongs or something like something that, you know, sticks in people's minds, something that if it got recognized enough that there could be a toy or a poster that I could keep to remember that role mm-hmm<affirmative> and maybe go to a convention as a guest someday. Okay. Because I've been convention since I was 13 and to be at asked as a guest would be my way of coming full circle.
Dave B:Okay.
Sarah:That's awesome. I like that.
Dave B:I like that.
Sarah:That's a Really good way to end.
Dave B:That's a nice goal. Yeah. Well that's a good goal.
Dave V:The Day that you're a guest at a, at a con all three of us we're coming. We in front of line with big posters saying you did it. Yeah.
Sarah:So, um, the final ish of portion of this is can you let us know where people can find you?
Sheila:Absolutely. I'm Sheila M. Lin on Instagram, Lin VA on Twitter. Uh, I'm on Facebook. I'm pretty much everywhere that you can find me. If you type me in Google, I do show up. So Sheila S H E I L A L I N. And you'll find me and there's stuff. U h, there's stuff with me everywhere. And I hope you hear from me.
Sarah:Well, we hope you come. We hope you can right now.
Dave B:We hope you come back to the show too.
Dave V:Yeah, You should come back for sure.
Sheila:I'd love to, to come back. You guys are awesome.
Dave B:Thanks.
Dave V:Thank you.
Sarah:We, we should have her do a review with us one day.
Dave V:Yeah,
Dave B:Sure.
Dave V:You should definitely sit in on a review. It'd be,
Sarah:We'll make it a Disney movie.
Dave V:Well, no, we'll make sure it's,
Dave B:We'll make sure make it an animation. That's animated. That's all. Doesn't have to be Disney.
Sheila:Oh boy. Oh boy.
Dave V:Dave. He's back. Yeah, get the 40, get the ray sheilds up.
Dave B:She can do the mouse, but she can do the impression of the mouse better than I can.<laugh>
Dave V:Oh boy.
Sarah:All right.
Dave V:All right. I'm done too.<laugh>.
Sarah:Okay, guys. Well, um, that's it for us here at Post. Cut Sheila. Thank you so much for being on the show. We really appreciate, uh, you giving some insight into the industry, cuz that was awesome. We learned a lot from you today.
Dave B:<laugh> yeah, thanks again. It was really, it was really nice talking to you.
Dave V:I'm gonna miss you. This is a really, really good talk.
Sarah:<laugh> all right. So for those of you who want to find us here at Post Cut, you can find us at our website. We are at www. postcut.com. There you can find links to all of our social media pages, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, all the chaos. And go ahead and give us a listen. We are live on Wednesday or Wednesday nights at seven on YouTube and Twitch. Twitter and Twitter. And until next time we really appreciate you. Guys' listening and uh, have a good evening.
Dave B:Thank you everybody. See you later.
Dave V:Thank you.
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