Not So Cute - SILVER STREAMING

Dave B: 0:00

Warning the topics discussed here in contained material that some may find disturbing. Hey Dave?

Dave V: 0:05

Yeah. What's up.

Dave B: 0:07

Smell this episode. Does it smell spoiled?

Dave V: 0:10

Ugh. A little bit.

Dave B: 0:11

Should we try that?

Dave V: 0:13

Uh, I mean, I'm not down to try it right now, but Hey, just warn everyone else that there might be spoilers in this review.

Dave B: 0:21

Yeah. Like week, old milk. It's bad. It's spoiled. So if you don't want spoilers, don't go in the refrigerator. Just watch the movie before you're listening to the show.

Sarah: 0:37

Hello and welcome to post cut. Uh, silver screen. I am your host actress of the stage in screen. Sarah Peterson with me today. I have our writer and editor David M. Brown.

Dave B: 0:48

Hello.

Sarah: 0:48

And VFX artist, David Veerkamp.

Dave V: 0:50

Hello.

Sarah: 0:51

We will be discussing the film Cuties, which is the new controversy from Netflix. The director is, and I'm not gonna be able to pronounce it cuz I don't speak French Maïmouna Doucouré I'm assuming is how it it's writer and director. And I so am so sorry that I mispronounced your name.

Dave V: 1:12

We just finished Watching this movie a few seconds ago. So we are,

Sarah: 1:15

It i s fresh in our minds a nd let's just say,

Dave V: 1:17

That's why we're Silver Screening It.

Dave B: 1:18

And it will be fresh in our minds for a long time.

Dave V: 1:21

Yeah, that sounds, it's kind Of UN it's hard to UN watch it.

Dave B: 1:24

As we mentioned while we were watching it, I said to Sarah, wow, this movie is really hard to watch. And Sarah's reaction was, and we watch dog tooth<laugh>. So anybody who knows of our episode on dog tooth, I would prefer to put dog tooth on for a third time. Than watch this movie a second. And it's not because it's bad.

Sarah: 1:46

It's not a bad movie at all. It's

Dave B: 1:48

It's because it's so Disturbing.

Sarah: 1:51

I've read a lot on this film, which is why I actually asked for us to do this. And it's because you know, I've got friends who are very conservative in their thought process and they are all about the save the children campaign, which is all about, you know, sex trafficking and things like that on the children's side. And I'm just like, okay, what is it about this film? Because obviously when we first saw the trailer, I had messaged her. And I was like, if you watch the film that your boycoting, you would see that it's a social commentary on how women are pressured from a young age to be sexualized and put into those boxes. The actual message of the film as is once several awards is to stop forcing girls, to feel pressured, to grow up and allow them to actually be children instead of figments of sexual imagination, which shockingly enough, I pulled from the interviews with the director. Mm-hmm,<affirmative> not from the film itself, from what the director said about the film. That is what I imagined. That's what you did that the message would be mm-hmm<affirmative> and she goes just because it happens doesn't mean it should be put in the film. This will never be okay. And I agree it should never have been put in a film as blatantly as this film has portrayed it. Now that's not to say that this message should never have been put in a film.

Dave V: 3:12

I mean, this could be a message by someone who's suffered This.

Sarah: 3:14

As the female perspective of the group. Everything that those girls, except for take pictures of general areas that they took pictures of. I think every girl has done growing up and it's because as pre-teens and mind you, I went to public school, I was not raised religious at all. I was raised very open-minded very liberal. I did have the close-minded relationship with my parents, that the girls in the films had, but I can guarantee you, I got in fights. I dressed in a way that at the time would be perceived as slutty. My role models were the spice girls. I still listened to them to this day. And I look at it and I think to myself, we would stand on the porch of our babysitter's house and we would make dance moves. And it would be just like these girls, granted, they weren't as sexualized as these girls were in this film, right?

Dave V: 4:14

The hyperactivity Of, uh, social media has changedthat.

Sarah: 4:18

Has Changed it completely.

Dave V: 4:19

This is, this is happening.

Sarah: 4:21

And even, and I was, I was a nineties girl. I mean, I was a little girl in the nineties. So it's like you think from where that was in the full house era to now, it's a completely different place. And all you do is mimic.

Dave V: 4:39

mm-hmm<affirmative> and you copy And play almost everything in the movie. Almost every girl goes to. And I'm gonna say this, there are some people who do the other things in the movie too.

Sarah: 4:49

Oh, and I know there are,

Dave V: 4:50

That's a real thing too. How many celebrities have we heard news articles about them have had them doing it and they don't give you an explanation why it was just like, oh, I did it. I regret it. You know, like it could be any number of reasons why something happens, but it happens. It's real. And especially in an age with smartphone technology. And I, I think people don't see that the, the cell phone addiction play as much in this movie is such an important thing too.

Dave B: 5:14

And part of the movie, which was not shown, cuz it was not intended to be shown in this film. It was from the perspective of a female growing up. Right. Mm-hmm<affirmative> think about the opposite side of that in terms of the same age boy, the boy is expected to be a man and already have vetted a woman at this point. There's pressures on both sides. It's just that there's different pressures. And I think what's happening is like you said, the movie is uncomfortable because it's showing the female perspective. We're used to seeing the boys perspective in coming to age movies, things like that. Yeah. And it's done not as harshly as this one,

Sarah: 5:49

Right?

Dave V: 5:49

No, it's very done. Cookie cutter cookie cutter style. Yeah. Yeah. You know, because. boy meets girl kind of Thing.

Dave B: 5:54

Yeah. You know, and, oh, you're a teenager. So you have to have sex. You know, that's just the biggest thing. It's just have sex with a, you know, lose your virginity. And then you're a man,

Dave V: 6:01

This one does more of a psychological horror of it.

Dave B: 6:03

It's the opposite. It's if, if you're a woman and you lose your virginity before you're married, you're whore.

Sarah: 6:07

I was just thinking about this too. In Western culture, it just came to me. I know why people are uncomfortable about this film it because when we are exposing ourselves to this kind of information, the actors that are portraying, those characters are older. Sarah Michelle Galler was 18, 19 20 when she did Buffy the vampire Slayer where she's portraying a 15 year old.

Dave V: 6:28

Yeah. She's portraying a 15 year old, even though she is,

Sarah: 6:30

she's already an adult,

Dave V: 6:31

But remember her character, you're supposed to think of her as a 15 year old. Right? Right.

Sarah: 6:35

So we have got this very clouded view of what a child should look like in a film.

Dave V: 6:42

Or act or behave.

Sarah: 6:44

They actually had 11 year olds portraying. These characters is what's disturbing people, I think. But it's Also the idea that in reality, not the film in reality, 11 year olds do this. And, and it is disturbing mm-hmm<affirmative>. And I can understand on the one hand where the conservative side is looking at it and going, this is child porn. Is that someone who has not seen it, I can see why based off of what they have seen on previews and what they can get from the media on this film. Because you know what American media's gonna do is they're gonna overplay the sexual parts.

Dave B: 7:24

It's like when you see a headline on a newspaper or on an, on an article on the internet, people have a tendency to read the big, bold black print of the headline and not the article. Don't just watch the trailer. Don't just listen to what I can conservative media outlet, or even a liberal outlet will say above this movie, if you want to have your opinion be correct in how you think it watch the movie, cuz that's the only way you're gonna get the proper opinion for yourself.

Sarah: 7:51

Exactly.

Dave B: 7:52

And that's the extreme part of it that goes into the movie. You have the extreme part of it, which the girl is religious. She's coming from a very religious family. And then you have the other girls who are, I would say for lack of a better term, secular they're okay with it. But the one common thread that I noticed on both extremes is neither one have contact with their parents on a regular basis.

Dave V: 8:13

True. The lack of parenting was a message right in the movie as Well.

Dave B: 8:16

Cause the aunt said it, every person she raised the listen to her, but is it the aunt's responsibility to raise someone that's not hers?

Dave V: 8:24

Nope.

Sarah: 8:25

It might be in the culture.

Dave B: 8:26

It might Be. And that's very true. But the point is the girl is resenting the aunt raising her. Why not? Mom and dad? Because where's dad. Well, you said they're polygamous. Okay. So where's Dad,

Sarah: 8:36

Courting His new wife.

Dave B: 8:37

Courting his new wife ignoring the child. He is gonna have what at least one more with the new wife, right in polygamy. Is it in such a way that a man has four or five different wives and has children with each and every one of'em and then has absolutely no responsibility to those children, to the point where he can ignore a child to go marry another woman in order to have another child in which to ignore.

Sarah: 8:57

So I don't know if that's necessarily part of the culture, what I have seen. And this is from documentaries mm-hmm<affirmative> for lack of a better term. There are tribes in Africa. Mm-hmm<affirmative> that? I know that the wives basically become wet nurses for the babies. So like when and wife has a baby,

Dave B: 9:16

They kind of all raise it.

Sarah: 9:18

Yeah. They all raise it. And it's like, it's kind of like the lions, this film is having such a large controversy in religious circles because of the, say the children movement, they are looking at it from their Christian point of view. And they're saying like, this film is, is wrong. It should never have been made. And then you've got someone in salt lake city cuz that's Utah. And where is Sundance? Isn't that in Utah. Yeah. Which this film has won awards at some,

Dave V: 9:45

Which means it made it, which means people at Sundance thought this way.

Sarah: 9:48

Exactly.

Dave V: 9:49

A message.

Sarah: 9:49

That's the point that I'm trying to make here is that if Sundance thought it was an appropriate, I don't understand other than the blatant, uncomfortable feeling that I am feeling after that movie.

Dave B: 10:04

People are gonna say, the movie should never have been made. Well, you know what? Maybe Citizen Kane shouldn't have been made.

Speaker 3: 10:09

I think this is the most important film of our generation and that's coming a lot for me because I am uncomfortable about it.

Dave B: 10:16

People hate being uncomfortable. They hate it.

Sarah: 10:19

That's why I think it's the most important film that's ever been created because it shoves it in your face.

Dave B: 10:25

This Is what art in general. And I am talking about sculpture, painting, filmmaking and filmmaking really is the conglomeration of all of them. You can say that each frame is a picture and each years of painting and so on and so forth. A piece of art, isn't just there to entertain. And trust me, I was not entertained by this movie.

Sarah: 10:43

Oh God, no,

Dave B: 10:44

I was not entertained at all by This movie.

Sarah: 10:47

I will never watch it again.

Dave V: 10:49

I will never choose to watch this movie unless I wanna prove A point.

Dave B: 10:53

It's kind of like sausage party. I would never recommend it.

Dave V: 10:56

Oh God.

Dave B: 10:57

But if you watch it, you're gonna watch it. And you're gonna be like, well, what the hell did I just watch?

Dave V: 11:02

I wish I had never seen that movie.

Dave B: 11:03

Right.<laugh> and in a way, I wish I had never seen this movie, but I'm okay with seeing the movie once. Cuz I can say I saw it and I will have an opinion of it. It is purely for an adult vision. Even though there are no technically adult scenes in it,

Dave V: 11:16

There is there's none.

Dave B: 11:18

The point is it's trying to reach the adult sphere by saying, if you don't watch your children and watch what they're watching and looking at, you might have to deal with this. And it also states to the religious ex uh, the extreme religious aspect of it, at least in my opinion, is that the extremeness of the religion kind of drives the, the people to do these things. Cuz they're so repressed.

Dave V: 11:48

They go to the extreme.

Dave B: 11:49

That they go to an extreme, they say, well, I'm not supposed to have it. And it's it's it's the apple, the tree. It's the forbidden fruit. I have to see what it is. She will never go back. That character will never go back to what she was doing.

Sarah: 12:04

No.

Dave B: 12:04

But she's never gonna go to the extreme of the religious end either.

Sarah: 12:07

Right? Cause she.

Dave B: 12:08

She's gonna grow and she's gonna be more.

Dave V: 12:10

In the middle. Well try too

Dave B: 12:13

She will not be as extremely religious. She'll stay religious cuz most likely she will, but she'll never be extremely secular either. She's gonna find her balance and she'll live her life. Because if you notice at the end, she's jumping rope and that takes great balance to do that. You have to know how to jump the rope. You have none of that. And it goes back to your point of she's just being a kid. And she's the happiest at that point.

Dave V: 12:38

I'll say this, This movie movie should be, I mean, I, you, you said you had friends who were, what, what were they a part of? What was their movement?

Sarah: 12:45

Uh, the free the children movement.

Dave V: 12:46

So the free the children movement.

Sarah: 12:47

Ssve the children. I'm sorry. This Is like, should be a rallying cry for them. Well<laugh> and, and technically that was,

Dave V: 12:54

Don't go behind it. I mean, this is kind of,

Sarah: 12:56

That was the point I was trying to make to her is that this film actually is.

Dave V: 13:00

It states your point.

Sarah: 13:02

Yeah.

Dave V: 13:02

Perfectly.

Sarah: 13:03

But, but I can understand as a mom, why she does not wanna watch this film and, and I'm not a mother,

Dave B: 13:10

But here's the thing. It seems by what you're saying, your friend is a aware of what is going on.

Sarah: 13:15

Yes.

Dave B: 13:16

And so she's already doing the parent thing and saying to her children, yeah, you are not watching this.

Sarah: 13:20

Exactly.

Dave B: 13:21

I am in control of what you watch until you are an adult and then you can do what you want. But until then I'm in charge.

Sarah: 13:27

and, and it's, and, and not that this film is entertaining. It's not entertaining.

Dave B: 13:30

It's not an entertaining film.

Sarah: 13:32

I I, and I don't,

Dave B: 13:32

And I don't think it was intended to be entertaining.

Sarah: 13:34

No, It's definitely, it's intended. It's intended to drive home that message.

Dave V: 13:39

This is a Psychological message movie.

Dave B: 13:42

And honestly, and honestly, if you can say, if you can say there's any part of the movie that makes you feel normal, it's when they're acting like normal kids.

Dave V: 13:51

Exactly. I said it when they're in the laser tag And they're laughing around.

Dave B: 13:54

The only time you feel somewhat normal.

Dave V: 13:56

Yeah.

Sarah: 13:57

Actually I can say when she is standing in the schoolyard, mm-hmm,<affirmative> the first time and she's getting handed her schedule.

Dave B: 14:03

Right. And she's new. Right.

Sarah: 14:04

And there's they do the flash mob.

Dave B: 14:06

Yeah.

Sarah: 14:06

That I felt kind of normal.

Dave B: 14:08

Yeah. You were like, okay, it's a flash mob and whatever.

Sarah: 14:10

When, when she was playing around, after she had seen the girls and, and her, her bedroom, she had taken her shirt and tied it into a knot to make it a crop top that felt normal to me. And it's because that's what kids do. They play dress up. Yeah. When she crawled under the bed and her overheard her mom talking about how her dad was getting married to his second wife, that while to me, I didn't feel normal about the second wife part. Yeah. I felt normal about her being crawling under the bed because she doesn't wanna get caught. Like that kind of stuff.

Dave B: 14:42

It makes me feel bad for people. I know that have daughters, they have to insulate the, the child from this in the sense of protecting them from it. But yet you also have to push them out the door where, you know, they're gonna gonna get exposed to it. You can't stop it because they're in school and it's gonna be exposed in the school and on the, and on the bus home and on the playground and all that.

Dave V: 15:04

But this goes all the way back to the point of when you said, when we're talking about the, uh, the more Hispanic looking character, I think Angelica and so Angelica, you said it herself, every time she walks or moves, she's in a pose. And I hate to say it. And, and if you don't like this movie, yeah. You thank.

Sarah: 15:19

You shouldn't.

Dave V: 15:20

Thank god you,

Dave B: 15:22

Yeah. honestly, you,

Sarah: 15:23

If you like This movie, cross yourself, you're go get help.

Dave V: 15:26

Go get some help.

Dave B: 15:27

I can say, I appreciate the movie in terms of, of a, of its message. I, I am trying to put this over, but it is not a movie that is likable.

Sarah: 15:36

It is not, I, you wanna know what I do appreciate about this film,

Dave B: 15:39

The guts to make it.

Sarah: 15:40

Other than that is aside from the very sexualized nature of some of the camera angles at the very end, when she's spiraling out of control. Mm. You see the camera starts to go in this very wiggy kind of capturing not only the very conservative view of what are these girls doing as they're dancing on stage mm-hmm<affirmative>,

Dave V: 16:02

But the audience yeah.

Sarah: 16:04

With the audience to the girls and they're realizing, and you can see the, the working out of this message in Amy's head.

Dave B: 16:11

Yeah. It's.

Sarah: 16:12

Where she goes. I've gone Too far.

Dave B: 16:13

That clarity is coming to her.

Sarah: 16:15

And It's Beautiful.

Dave V: 16:17

Is she the,

Dave B: 16:18

i t's a moment of clarity.

Dave V: 16:19

The mom and the kid in the background and the guy in the front, the guy's like not in his head enjoying it. Right. Kind of pervy. Yeah. And then you have the mom and covering her son's eyes.

Dave B: 16:29

You have the, and then you have the guy who was at the audition with the, with the fedora hat Uhhuh. I noticed him. He's like, Ooh, like that, like, like he's enjoying it even more. Mm-hmm. And I called it at the audition. I said, I wanna know what the guy with the hat is. Like, I he's, he's gonna be like that skeezy.

Dave V: 16:45

Pervey guy, Guy. Well,

Sarah: 16:46

it was, it was the point where they start gyrating on the, on the ground where she realizes because, and I don't don't think she would've realized it had auntie not had the conversation with her when she had her period. I don't think she would've realized that this is sex. Like, this is how sex is portrayed in this culture. And she realizes, oh my God, what have I done?

Dave B: 17:09

And you mentioned a Dick or Dave, you mentioned addiction in terms, uh, being addicted to social media and stuff.

Dave V: 17:16

Yeah. Yeah.

Dave B: 17:16

And it's her rock bottom moment. It's where she can go. No lower. All she can do is look up and realize what she's done.

Sarah: 17:24

Right.

Dave B: 17:24

And how, how it's affecting her.

Sarah: 17:26

And not only how it's affecting her, how it's affecting the people around her.

Dave B: 17:29

Right.

Sarah: 17:30

Because even the cuties, as they call themselves, the girls on the group that she was hanging out with.

Dave B: 17:36

were shunning her.

Sarah: 17:37

They were shunning her. And they were saying, you made this look like whores.

Dave B: 17:40

Yeah.

Sarah: 17:41

People are asking if we are exposing ourselves and stuff like that. And, and Amy's over here. Like, but that's not, that was not my point. You guys have taught me to,

Dave V: 17:50

I'm just taking what You guys do. Right. And then Went, went grow. You,

Sarah: 17:53

You taught us to manipulate.

Dave B: 17:54

Right.

Sarah: 17:55

And, and, and whatever. And that's what I was doing in the situation I had to get. My last word in the phone was being taken away from her, by her cousin. And it was just all of this stuff, just spiraling out of control. And I don't know what she was thinking in that moment. If, if.

Dave V: 18:11

She wasn't.

Sarah: 18:12

As, as a female who would've been stuck in that situation, I don't even know what I would've been thinking in that moment. And I mean, I'm watching it with the female gaze.

Dave V: 18:23

It's so funny. You say that because for people who have had that happen to them, when they did that and the people ask them, Hey, what were you thinking? They say they, they weren't thinking. They always say, I Don't know. I think.

: 18:34

I, I think I have a kind of a certain,

Dave V: 18:37

a pseudo answer,

Dave B: 18:38

Pseudo answer to this because,

Dave V: 18:39

okay.

Dave B: 18:39

I've had a rock bottom moment of clarity moment. Okay. At least in mine. And I think it's kind of like this for her. You're looking around at what's happening and becoming sober to it. You're looking, and you're saying this is happening and it's not right. And it's making me feel a certain way, like I'm dying or I'm about to die or something in me is dying.

Sarah: 19:01

Right.

: 19:01

And then the only true thought that you have that you can remember in the moment is what she does get the hell out.

Sarah: 19:10

I was more so referring to what she was doing in the bathroom.

: 19:12

Oh. But I'm talking, I'm talking about on the stage. Right. Cause that's her rock bottom

Sarah: 19:16

Moment. And, and I agree with that. Hmm. But in my, in my head,

Dave B: 19:21

Yeah. She was only doing what she was taught to do in that, In that moment,

Sarah: 19:24

But in the bathroom.

Dave B: 19:25

Yeah.

Sarah: 19:25

I, I can't even perceive what was going through her mind. Like that rock bottom moment I get,

Dave B: 19:31

Yeah.

Sarah: 19:32

Oh, I get that 100%. That is exactly. That is exactly what makes that seem beautiful. Hmm. And it is highly inappropriate. First of all, they had more dance time than any of the other crews.

Dave B: 19:44

It seemed that way. Yeah.

Sarah: 19:44

Right. Like it felt like it just kept going on and on.

Dave V: 19:48

I'm sure that That's a more of an editing movie choice.

Dave B: 19:50

Yeah. That, yeah. That's, That's a storytelling choice.

Dave V: 19:53

The Endless Phoenix, it feel endless. Yeah. Yeah.

Dave B: 19:55

Right.

: 19:56

And it was like, in, in that moment of clarity was, was beautifully shot. I will never watch that again. No matter what, like I said, it was beautifully shot. Never gonna watch it again because it's just, it's, it's hard. Especially after the bathroom scene and the bathroom scene up until that point, the bathroom has been like her sanctuary, where she can learn how to do the dancing. Mm-hmm,<affirmative> learn how to do the movie.

Dave V: 20:18

It is her sacred place.

Sarah: 20:19

Because nobody has,

Dave V: 20:20

And in that symbolic moment, she destroys it. It's.

Sarah: 20:23

Like they took her Virginity.

Dave B: 20:24

Cause she, but she cuz she never.

Dave V: 20:25

That's a great Way of putting it. And She probably what it is.

Dave B: 20:28

And she never goes back,

Sarah: 20:29

No,

Dave V: 20:30

There you go. There. We just figured that out.

Dave B: 20:32

It's her virginity. It's her innocence. It's every, because when you see those initial scenes of her trying to do the dance moves in the bathroom, it's an innocent thing.

Sarah: 20:40

Yeah.

Dave B: 20:41

She's looking at who she is perceiving to be her friends. And she's like, well, I have to like any fit in any kid I have to fit in and she's just trying'em out. And she realizes that she can do this. And I think at some point, because she almost immediately takes over as like the choreographer of the group,

Sarah: 20:58

Right.

Dave B: 20:59

When, when she shows what she can do and she realizes she can do it better. And in the end, just before they go on stage Angelica, she says, no, we don't have to have Yasmine. We should, we should. She, we should dance with her. She's better anyway.

Sarah: 21:12

Well, and not only that, but not only is she better, she becomes power hungry. Mm-hmm<affirmative> and it's like, she's getting this rush of, I've never had this attention before, because if you are watching it, you see her culture is very like women should be seen and not heard. So my point is, is that because women should be seen and not heard and that they should be always happy and everything for the men, you know, they're submissive creatures. This is her first moment of dominance and this entire film,

Dave B: 21:43

Right. It goes straight to her head.

Sarah: 21:44

And it goes straight to her head and she's dualling character. She doesn't know which personality trait that she wants.

Dave V: 21:51

Yes. There was a duality to the, to, to both her social places in the world.

Sarah: 21:55

Yeah. Yeah. And, and you could see that with how she stole from her mother and how she was super sweet to her friends and things like that. It's, it's every, it's every child's experience when they're growing up and trying to find their way in life. If you know, they're trying to become that bigger, better person,

Dave B: 22:11

Are we reviewing this? Are we giving it stars?

Dave V: 22:14

We're giving, we're Giving films.

Sarah: 22:15

I'm not r ating this film.

Dave V: 22:16

Oh, okay. You're not.

Sarah: 22:18

I personally, I, I personally cannot agree with giving this film a rating. If it was based on cinematography alone, I would give it a five star rating. But the content is it's too much for me.

Dave V: 22:30

Okay.

Sarah: 22:31

I can't, I cannot recommend this to anybody. All right.

Dave V: 22:35

That's Your choice.

Dave B: 22:36

Okay.

Dave V: 22:36

You first.

Dave B: 22:37

In terms of film making, like you say, cinematography editing, all that stuff. It gets a four. I give him a four for making it, because this is not a movie that, you know, going into this movie, it's gonna be nothing but controversy. That being said, I do not recommend this movie.

Sarah: 22:52

Nope.

Dave B: 22:52

If you are an adult, it is your choice to watch it. I would believe that you would watch it once and be like us. I'm not watching it again. I have stated my opinion of this movie it's message is on point for parents, for even children. It's, it's a way for parents to, I think in an extreme way, uh, see what happens when you don't parent. I mean, and I, and I realize parenting is a tough job. You have work to go to and you have to have children to take care of, but it reinforces the point of families are not democracies. They are dictatorships for a certain period of time with children, because I hate to say it 11 year olds don't know what's good for'em.

Sarah: 23:33

Exactly.

Dave B: 23:33

They don't. When they're 18, 19, you hope that you have given enough, put enough, enough good teaching of your values. And it has to be your values, not society's values, your values. All you can do is hope that you've instilled that in them. And they will carry that with them. So as an adult, if you watch it, it's gonna make you uncomfortable. But its intent is to make you uncomfortable and to a person like your friend who is not going to watch this movie at all. I completely agree with your opinion. You don't wanna watch it, Don watch it. Because as I said earlier, your friend appears from what you say to be in control of her children.

Sarah: 24:10

Exactly.

Dave B: 24:11

In the sense of, I am not letting my children be exposed to this until they're old enough, Dave.

Dave V: 24:17

So I guess I'm gonna wrap up this little thing in a pretty bow. Uh, I'm gonna rate it a five star movie for a Sundance movie. I think it's well made. It has intention. It has a purpose. Mm-hmm<affirmative> it tries to speak that and it knows what it is. And I I've received the message. I'm gonna say this. This is not a horror movie. This is not a blockbuster. This is not an action movie.

Dave B: 24:38

No,

Dave V: 24:38

This is not a thriller. This is nothing more than a reality check.

Dave B: 24:42

Yeah.

Dave V: 24:43

And if you're not prepared for that.

Dave B: 24:44

in terms of a narrative if you're correct, it is a reality check. Yes.

Dave V: 24:47

If you're not prepared for that, don't watch this movie.

Dave B: 24:49

Yeah.

Dave V: 24:50

If you're willing to challenge yourself and the reality of society dive in, but you have been warned.

Sarah: 24:56

For those of You who might be seeing this film after our discussion of it, I would like to instill just this message to you, prepare yourself, do not do what we, where we just watched it without being mentally prepared for it. Mentally prepare yourself for it. It is not a beautiful film in terms of the message that it's portraying it's eye opening. And what society has told us is okay to be in film,

Dave V: 25:22

Use the pause button. It's there for you

Sarah: 25:25

Be you're best friend is gonna be the pause button in this movie.

Dave V: 25:28

Yeah. The fact That it's on Netflix and you can pause, it is probably the best reason.

Dave B: 25:32

And for Some people, the best, the best button will be the stop button.

Sarah: 25:36

Yes. With that being said, I applaud the director who wrote and directed the film. I mean, I give you so much praise to be able to get your message onto the screen. Again, would not recommend this film, but we would recommend others that we have reviewed in the past. So we look forward to hearing what you guys have to say. And maybe if you've seen the film, tell us your reactions to it and give us some films to review. So we'll see you guys next time here at post cut. Thank you.

Dave B: 26:04

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